my EX5R SD storage conversion

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my EX5R SD storage conversion

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Here are some photos of the conversion I did of my EX5R to SD storage. I thought they might be useful for others thinking of doing the same.

Parts used:
- Yamaha EX5 SCSI expansion card (ASIB1)
- 50 pin flat SCSI cable
- Molex to Floppy power cable adapter ( http://www.ebay.de/itm/361404595559 )
- SCSI2SD adapter (codesrc.com)
- two M3 x 10 mm spacer bolts (for mounting the SCSI2SD adapter on the chassis)
- 50 cm micro-USB extension cable (male <> female)
- microSD to SD adapter ( http://www.ebay.de/itm/161284940235 )
- 2 GB SD Card
- empty chassis of a Fujitsu MO drive (from a defective MO drive, alternatively you could use any other 3.5" drive chassis such as from an old floppy drive or similar)

The SCSI2SD adapter is mounted onto the empty MO drive chassis using the two M3 x 10 mm spacer bolts and the SD card reader is superglued onto a flat piece of wood that in turn is superglued onto the MO drive chassis facing the front fascia.

The micro-USB extension cable is attached to the SCSI2SD adapter with the other end going out of the back of the EX5 via a hole in the unused digital out extension blanking plate on the back (I actually replaced the original metal blanking plate with a plastic one I made from a DVD box, so I didn't have to drill the original cover). The USB cable is needed to configure the SCSI2SD adapter from a PC and/or to update the firmware of the SCSI2SD adapter.

I have configured the SCSI2SD adapter to present itself on SCSI ID 5 as removable storage (MO), therefore hot-swapping of the SD card works fine.

Since my modification doesn't require any holes or cuts in any of the original EX5R parts or cuts or modifications of any original cables I could revert my EX5R easily back to factory default by removing the SCSI2SD chassis with related cables and putting the original floppy drive back.

Top view:
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Rear view of the 3.5 drive enclosure with SCSi2SD adapter and SD card slot:
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Front fascia view:
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Front view of the 3.5 drive enclosure with SCSi2SD adapter and SD card slot:
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Two more pics:

Rear of the EX5R, USB cable exit:
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Display showing how EX5R sees the SD card:
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Nice one there tux ((i)) (Y)
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Thanks for sharing - something I am thinking of doing to retire both anchient floppies and ZIP drives, so I was looking for a recent successful conversion....


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Miks wrote:Nice one there tux ((i)) (Y)
When I retire from work in the middle of this year I know what my next project will be... 8)
I think this project won't keep you busy for long, it's fairly trivial. :)

My next project is the display upgrade of the TG77, that's a lot more challenging for me... :?
Derek wrote:Thanks for sharing - something I am thinking of doing to retire both ancient floppies and ZIP drives, so I was looking for a recent successful conversion....
You're welcome, I think the upgrade is well worth it, having 2 GB on a single card of solid state memory (rather than noisy mechanical drives) is well worth the expense, even though loading times are not much faster (due to the well known limitations of the EX5).

I'm almost glad that the second-hand MO drive I had initially bought for the EX5R turned up defective as otherwise I wouldn't have decided to go for the SCSI2SD adapter, which in hindsight is the far better solution.

IMHO the codesrc.com SCSI2SD adapter is currently the best solid state memory solution (especially for you since there is a UK reseller now), all those older SCSI-to-CF or SCSI-to-IDE adapters are hard to get hold of and usually a lot more expensive.


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Neat installation, thanks for the post. I might even be tempted to move on from my CF adapters. Do you have a link for the UK supplier?


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jima wrote:Neat installation, thanks for the post. I might even be tempted to move on from my CF adapters. Do you have a link for the UK supplier?
I'm not sure wether I'm allowed to link to the seller directly (with the new linking rules on this forum) but on the SCSI2SD wiki there are links to all the resellers: http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index. ... D#Purchase

IMHO if you have a working CF solution then it's not worth switching to SD, I only meant that for somebody still using legacy storage (floppies, ZIP drives, hard drives) it's the best solution these days as SCSI2SD adapters are currently widely available at a very good price, while SCSI to CF adapters are hard to find and more expensive (the only new one I know of has to be imported from Japan).


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FWIW - I DO think the SD solution is a bit more robust than CF

My Alesis Fusion8HD has a CF Socket at the back. It's OK as far as it goes, but you do have to be wary of some of the Multi Card adaptors sold these days for fitting in the 3.5" hole in your PC . . .

The CF implementation in some of these is a bit naff, inasmuch as the lead-slot is foreshortened to such a degree that it is EASY to trash the pins at the back of the socket.

(insufficient depth provided to accurately line up the CF card BEFORE it meets the pins - IYSWIM)

The CF card is an older solution, probably hanging over from the MicroDrive (Anyone remember those?) - an actual HDD inside a CF Case . . .

They were much favoured in the earlier High-End DSLR Cameras - for data storage, BEFORE SDs became commonplace.

The CF socket on the Fusion is actually quite well done and I've had no problems, but IMO, the SD is far more robust, and generally, a nicer solution.

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i have 3.5" sdcard opening metal cases for the scsi2sd if anyone is after one i have 5 left and can order more if needed i use the same system as tux a scsi2sd board and the adapter from mini sd to standard sd card i use counter sunk screws and nylon pillars to get the correct height for the sdcard adapter which sits direct to the sdcard hole


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jhulk wrote:i have 3.5" sdcard opening metal cases for the scsi2sd if anyone is after one i have 5 left and can order more if needed i use the same system as tux a scsi2sd board and the adapter from mini sd to standard sd card i use counter sunk screws and nylon pillars to get the correct height for the sdcard adapter which sits direct to the sdcard hole
Sounds interesting, a photo would be nice. (Y)

Did you get them custom made?


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Oh yes, piccy(s) please - I might be interested in getting one of these...


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yes i had the sdcard drives made they were originally for scsi sata sd but it was way to expensive a drive so i used the scsi2sd and the extension cable

as i was doing a dual drive for the emax and ensoniq keyboards i had working prototypes for the eps16+ but the asr10 used a different floppy controller and dont like the slim floppy conversion board

ill be building one for a customer for his k2000r this week end so will take photos of them


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got sent the wrong extender cables they have resent them so should have them monday/tuesday so will then build one and then take photos


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I would gladly buy one if possible


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i have got the cables today bloody easter i will make up the drive on thursday and post pictures


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